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Can I store the LPG cylinder in the cupboard under the gas barbecue – even when it’s really hot?

4. June 2018/in Grill & BBQ, LPG Leisure Time

Inhaltsverzeichnis

  • Protection
  • Problems at 50 degrees?
  • Please note
  • LPG cylinders for camping
  • Safety valve regulation
  • No risk in the barbecue cupboard
Approximate reading time: 4 minutes

The question of the maximum temperature at which you can store the gas cylinder in the cupboard under the gas barbecue is a bit of a hot topic – especially in summer, of course. Once the thermometer hits the 30 degree mark, a good number of barbecue fans will get a little uncomfortable when the barbecue and gas cylinder are sitting in the blazing sun. But this doesn’t have to be the case. Why? GOK will explain in this article.

It’s the end of July. The sun is beating down mercilessly. The gas cylinder is sitting in the cupboard underneath the gas barbecue, which, in turn, has a black cover over it. The temperatures around the LPG cylinder can easily reach 40 degrees Celsius.

Even if that causes unease for some, when you think about the interaction between hot temperatures and LPG, you can rest assured: There is no direct danger, even in extreme heat!

If the gas cylinder is sitting in direct sunlight or in the hot cupboard under the gas barbecue, a good number of people start to feel uncomfortable. But it doesn't have to be this way!

If the gas cylinder is sitting in direct sunlight or in the hot cupboard under the gas barbecue, a good number of people start to feel uncomfortable. But it doesn’t have to be this way!

Protection

All LPG cylinders containing the media propane and butane, and mixtures of these, are designed in such a way that you can even store them if the temperature feels subtropical. Still, if the thermometer starts to creep up to dizzying heights, for any reason at all, the safety valve intervenes.

Pure propane and pure butane have a something called a vapour pressure curve. This means: With this curve, we can determine how much pressure is in the gas cylinder at specific temperatures.

Die Dampfdruckkurve zeigt deutlich, dass selbst bei einer Temperatur von um die 50 Grad Celsius das Sicherheitsventil der Propangasflasche noch nicht ansprechen würde.

The vapour pressure curve clearly shows that even at a temperature of around 50 degrees Celsius, the safety valve of the propane gas cylinder wouldn’t yet respond.

Problems at 50 degrees?

From the graphic, you can read that at 40 degrees Celsius, the vapour pressure of propane is at around 13 bar; at 50 degrees, it sits at around 17 bar. These temperatures are not nearly high enough to cause the gas cylinder to explode. And before the vapour pressure reaches a critical range, the safety valve integrated into the gas cylinder valve intervenes.

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In the case of propane, it releases a small, controlled volume of gas into the environment as soon as the pressure exceeds 30 bar. Butane has a significantly flatter vapour pressure curve. This is why the response pressure of the safety valve sits at around 14 bar. The diagram above doesn’t show the critical temperature range of both media at all. This would have to be well above 80 degrees Celsius.

Please note

However: Even if, in normal circumstances, the gas cylinder doesn’t present any direct danger at 80 degrees, the operator should still pay attention to the specifications of the LPG distributor. For example, Tyczka Energy requests that the storage temperature of the medium LPG not exceed 50 degrees Celsius.

If you’re now wondering which gas cylinders have this safety valve we mentioned, here’s out answer: All the classic 5, 11 and 33-kilogram propane gas cylinders, i.e. the ones typical for Germany.

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Die Klassiker für die private Anwendung haben auf jeden Fall ein integriertes Sicherheitsventil: links die Flasche mit 5 Kilogramm Füllgewicht; rechts mit 11 Kilogramm.

The classic cylinders for private use definitely have an integrated safety valve: on the left, the cylinder with a 5-kilogram filling weight; on the right with 11-kilogram.

LPG cylinders for camping

For so-called camping cylinders, for example, from the manufacturer Camping Gaz, which do not have a withdrawal valve, it’s really easy to retrofit these with a gas cylinder valve from GOK. The safety valve is integrated and even in this use case, it works exactly as we described above – no matter whether you’re using the cylinder in your caravan, motor caravan or even on your boat.

Safety valve regulation

It has to as well, because the DVGW worksheets G 607 (for leisure vehicles), G 608 (for boats) and G 612 (leisure time) each require a safety valve which is combined with the standard shut-off valve for the gas cylinder.

  Which GOK components do I need as a private individual for my gas barbecue?

On the safety valve itself, there is a red (when using propane) or blue plastic cap (when using butane). If this is missing, it may be a sign that the safety valve has responded.

No risk in the barbecue cupboard

To sum up: Even if it’s starting to get hotter around the barbecue – in the truest sense of the word –, under normal circumstances, the gas cylinder doesn’t pose any danger. If you observe the information from the manufacturer, the replacement times of components, and you’re using your common sense, it’s definitely always safe to barbecue with gas.

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